... Things never usually go wrong for C2c. But- when things happen, boy do they go wrong.
COMFORT OF THE TRAINS.
This is probably the one thing that I find i wrong with C2C. The seats are so damn uncomfortable. Thats even if you do manage to find a seat that is. If you do manage to sit down, ... Read review
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Advantages: It gets you from A to B quickly Disadvantages: overcrowding, dirty trains, no guard, CAN be hard to buy a ticket.
C2C is definitely one of the best railway companies, but not quite as good as South West Trains, not everything can be perfect. C2C is run by Nationan Express, between London Fenchurch Street and Southend and Shoeburyness. There are effectivly 3 lines here, mainline from London Fenchurch Street to Shoeburyness, via Basildon. The Tilbury Loop is from Fenchurch Street to Shoebury once again, but this time via Tilbury. For the third time there is a ... ...are ticket machines at all C2C stations now where you can buy the basic tickets for travel on the same day only. All stations also have ticket offices which have varying and restricted opening hours, where you can buy the whole range of tickets - from standard day returns, to travel cards to advance purchase, to rover tickets to car park tickets.
When the ticket office is closed, you have no choice but to use the machine, which sometimes ... more
C2C is definitely one of the best railway companies, but not quite as good as South West Trains, not everything can be perfect. C2C is run by Nationan Express, between London Fenchurch Street and Southend and Shoeburyness. There are effectivly 3 lines here, mainline from London Fenchurch Street to Shoeburyness, via Basildon. The Tilbury Loop is from Fenchurch Street to Shoebury once again, but this time via Tilbury. For the third time there is a line from Fenchurch Street and again the Shoebury, this time via Grays.
HOW EASY IS IT TO BUY TICKET?
There are ticket machines at all C2C stations now where you can buy the basic tickets for travel on the same day only. All stations also have ticket offices which have varying and restricted opening hours, where you can buy the whole range of tickets - from standard day returns, to travel cards to advance purchase, to rover tickets to car park tickets. When the ticket office is closed, you have no choice but to use the machine, which sometimes don't work, or don't accept cards or don't accept notes. In that event, you sometimes have a hard time trying to convince the revenue staff, who sometimes do ticket inspections on the train that you wanted to buy a ticket and you couldnt. I personally think that ticket windows should bo open the whole time there is a service running. so that people can buy the correct fare for thier journey. The price of tickets for C2C varies a lot depending on whether you travel peak or off peak. But- that is the same with all companies. You can get really good value fares on the weekend. Especially if you are travalling in a group of three or more people.I do think, contrary to public perception that C2C does offer good value for money.
FREQUENCY OF TRAINS.
The frequency of the trains is pretty good. as a general rule, if you turn up at one of thier stations, you will get a train within 15 minutes on the mainline and around 30 minutes of one of the loop lines. I've never really had much of a problem with the arrival of trains, but there have been times when i have felt really let down by C2C. But, more about that later...
FACILITIES FOR DISABLED PERSONS.
Facilities for disabled persons are not really that good on C2C. Most stations have lifts or ramps, such as West Ham or Basildon. But some - Like Pitsea, have nothing at all... All platforms there have a steep set of stairs to and from the ticket hall to the platforms. someone in a wheelchair would have no chance. Its not only disabled people either. What about people with large amounts of luggage or shopping or even a parent with a pushchair or small children? What are they going to do? Staff are there to help in these cases where they can. But not always as the stations are not manned the whole time there is a service. Staff are only there when the ticket hall is open.
RELIABILITY OF THE TRAINS.
Once again I've not experienced much trouble when it comes to the reliability of the trains. You can usually get on the train and know that your going to get there on time. Things never usually go wrong for C2c. But- when things happen, boy do they go wrong.
COMFORT OF THE TRAINS.
This is probably the one thing that I find i wrong with C2C. The seats are so damn uncomfortable. Thats even if you do manage to find a seat that is. If you do manage to sit down, you can't relax because you start worrying about squashing the person next to you. Those seats are so so narrow. especially when the only seats available are those that are the ones in a formation of 3 - and your seat is the one in the middle.
ON-BOARD FACILITIES.
There are'nt really many of these. Each train (That being each 4 coaches) has only 1 toilet, which never normally works anyway. If you do get in one it is normally dirty, smelly and not very clean. What else?? There are no luggage racks on C2C trains, only the ones over head, and you can't put anything bigger than a hangbag in there anyway. If you have any sizeable bags with you, you end up standing with the whole journey. This does not make for an enjoyable time. As far as on-board facilities go. There are no more. There is no buffet or trolley on board. What about if your like me and your handbag is the size of a small zeplin? Do you put it on the floor? NO - There are too many people wrestling for leg room. Do you put it on the table? NO- There are only tables at each end of the trains on SOME trains. Do you put it in the overhead racks? NO- I really wouldnt advise anyone to do this. Once i put my bag ther and someone stole if before I got to West Ham. This still leaves the dilemma of where to put your things. You usually end up just putting it on your lap and be uncomfortable the whole journey. What if you have luggage with you? God only knows.
THE GENERAL STATE OF THE STATIONS AND TRAINS.
Most of the stations are reasonably clean and tidy. You will find that places like Shoebury, Southend, Basildon, Upminster and West Ham are the best kept stations on the line. Once you start branching out to places like Grays, Ockendon, Purfleey and the Tilbury Staions, this is where you will find the rubbish, graffiti and the grime. I'm sure these smaller stations never get cleaned or maintained at all. Once they are built they get looked after for a while, then left to degenerate into a state of choas. I think that the novelty of keeping things looking nice and clean wears off after a while. This is why these places end up an eyesore. As for the trains themselves. They are generally ok during the day, when the cleaners can board and walk through the trains to collect rubbish and the like. But- after the morning and evening peak, the trains are horrible. Newspapers are strewn everywhere and there are numerous empty coffee cups and remanents of people eating on the go and leaving thier rubbish on the train. If that wasnt bad enough, throw in a Friday or Saturday night and things get a whole lot worse. After a whole load of alcohol and that greasy kebab, you can imagine what the carriages look like, especially when the sole toilet is out of order. I once went in to a toilet on one of the trains, I opened the door, went inside and didnt notice anything wrong. I turned round and pressed the button to close the door and I saw IT. Some sick person had obviouly done thier bussiness (As you do) in the loo - then only gone and smeared it all ove the wall. That is not a sight that i will ever forget, let me tell you.
SECURITY ON THE TRAINS
Security on the trains isnt that great to be honest. Yes - there is CCTV, but that isnt monitored, its only downloaded and looked at if there is a reported incident. You do the the emergency passenger alarm in each coach, but that wont do much to deter a mugger or a pickpocket on the train. As for a member of staff on board, well you have the driver, but he or she can't exactly do make sure the people on the train are safe. They obviously have to drive. I think the biggest mistake all those years ago on this line is when they got rid of the conductors. Of an evening they sometime shave security staff board a train at a sttions, walk through and make sure everything is ok, and then get off a the next station. But thats not all the time and not on all trains.
DELAYS AND DISRUPTION
C2C are generally the most efficiant and on time service in the uk. As shown by the offical figures. But there are times when thigs like overhead line problems and fatalities on the line cause utter chaos. Sometimes shutting down large partsof the time at the time. making it impossible for people to get where they are going. A 20 minute journey say between Basildon and West Ham turns in the an hour long replacement bus journey from hell. I know thigs like this can't be predicted or prevented. But distruption should try to be kept at a minimum. I was once at Basildon station waiting for the 04.49 train the Fenchurch Street, it was freezing cold and wet. Myself and around about 20 other people were waiting and waiting. The train was 4 minutes late, then 6 minutes late, then 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 and 18 minutes late. Eventually the on platform information board went off then restarted. someone had obviosly changed the information from the control center. It now appeares that the train we were waiting for was eventually on its way. There was only one problem - It was only going as far as Barking When we were waiting we were gived no information over the PA system about what was going on. I know that there are no staff at the station until around 05.30, but the people in the control room can connect and give announcement if they need to- but no one bothered. The train arrived, we all got on, and sat down (The train is quiet at this time of the morning) and we carried on to Barking. ON the approach to Barking the driver then finally announced that all the delays were occuring becuase of over running engineering works. He then went on to say that we were terminating at Barking. There was an audiably groaning noise on the usually really quiet train. When we go there everyone was turfed out and left to fend for themsleves. to try and find a way to thier destination. Basicallt C2C's customer service is CRAP.
All in all. Try not to use C2C unless youhave to. Especially at peak times. They really should try and sort of capacity problems too.... people are shoving in like sardines during the rush hour. but thats a whole diffrent story. Use C2C at your peril.
Advantages: A chance for National Express to shine Disadvantages: A chance for the misery line to return
...provided more money but will c2c drop to the level of Siverlink or will Silverlink improve?
The London Southend line needs a better integration with other rail routes so National Express may show initiative by developing the systems they own and linking them. c2c may benefit from the takeover otherwise the misery line will return and prove an embarrassment for Teddy Taylor and William Hague.
Privitisation must go alongside prudent yet dynamic leadership.
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educators 18.07.2000 (25.04.2001)
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Advantages: Relieve congested terminii Disadvantages: Havoc for tiemetable planners
In order to relieve congestion at he major London Terminii I suggest that with the next stage of franchises there be major changes to The North London Line so that trains from Southend may serve other major cities. Trains could reach Watford, Birmingham and the North West. The new trains offer speed and comfort when they work. Give the trains a chance and let us have have a more integrated rail system.
Other train operators sould also use the Southend ...
...in saying I work for c2c and I wish I would of wrote this review sooner as my opinion has not been altered and I'm not in any way biased and will be upfront about things. I do hope no one thinks I'm saying it for the sake I work for it but this is just an honest opinion of it, and yes, there are still plenty of disadvantages.
The first thing about c2c is they are reliable. We've been told that the company has topped the reliablity league for some ... ...only been delayed once by c2c which I think is reasonable. The trouble with c2c is when something delays then, it's usually problems with the overhead lines which can cause huge delays. From an outsider point of view and insider, I can see it is frustrating BUT it's not a minor problem when a fault happens overhead so it can take time. C2C seem to get a lot of suicides which can take ages and can be quite traumitizing for the people around. People ...
luckyduke 17.07.2006
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Advantages: On time, good value for money, comfortable Disadvantages: When delayed the trains can be badly delayed
I remember LTS very well, the old misery line. Never on time, HUGE delays, I remember it got so bad people used to open the old slam doors and walk down the platform! I think the whole make-over is brilliant. I use it to go to Fenchurch Street every day and It's always comfortable, good value for money.
Firstly they are very reliable. They have topped the PPM league for two months running, always over 90% of trains are on time. There are the odd ... ...tannoy and they are never usually more than three minutes late. The trains are comfortable and smooth, no bumping around like on the old district line, the alternative way to get to fenchurch (tower hill) and they are fast. They usually run quite a few fast services in the peak-times which is really handy if your in a bit of a rush! I also find the weekend fares really good, if you fancy a day down at southend they do really good weekend fares! There's ...
crazydaydreams 15.07.2006
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Advantages: not many Disadvantages: too costly, poor service
...one as I have endured c2c both as a commuter and a tourist. We all know that rail services in this country are very poor and I'm afraid to say that c2c is no different. A commuter ticket can cost as much as three thousand pounds per year and that does not necessarily secure a seat. It seems to me that all the new rail companies are interested is presenting a nicely presented service rather than a good service. LTS has now beocme c2c but nothing has ...
megafu 11.07.2000
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Advantages: Everything under one roof Disadvantages: Sore feet
the back of the shopping centre which is basically an indoor market. This overlooks the "lake" and has many stalls selling things from paintings/pictures to toys.
At each end of the shopping centre (or mall) there are two of the biggest stores in England. One end is House of Fraser being on 3 floors with its various concessions and departments and at the other end is Debenhams, also on three floors.
Lakeside stands by itself smack bang in the middle of Essex. With good transport routes via car and rail its easy to get to. c2c runs to Chafford Hundred from Fenchurch Street through East London and is the stop for Lakeside where a shuttle bus takes you to the door.
Its within easy route of the A12/A13 and M25 and near the Queen Elizabeth II bridge has easy access for shoppers from Kent.
There is parking for around 2/3,000 cars ...
Advantages: Free entry Disadvantages: limited supply of rides
the world), but the east side also. It was then the park was renamed Adventure Island. New rides are added almost every year and it will provide a fun filled family day out.
Location:
Sunken Gardens West, Western Esplanade, Southend-on-Sea SS1 1EE
The park is situated along Southend Sea Front (Western Esplanade) and easy to access though a variety of different types of transport.
By Car: Take junction 29 or 30 off of the M25, eastbound towards Southend on Sea. As you begin to near the town centre, you will see those brown attractions signs which will lead you directly to the park. The park itself doesn't have any parking, but there is ample parking along the seafront just a short walk away.
By Train: At the moment there is an offer with both c2c and 'one' railways offering free return rail travel when you ask for an 'Adventure ...
Advantages: A third off rail fares Disadvantages: Too many restrictions
Underground station
If you forget to bring your rail card with you have to pay full fare. You are not entitled to apply for this money back.
If a ticket office and machine is broken at a station and you need to get a ticket with your discount card put some small change in the permit to travel machines at stations and purchase your ticket on the train or at the other end.
Your rail card (excluding Family) is not valid without a photo card.
No refunds on rail cards.
You can't use your rail card to purchase discounted tickets for others. Unless it's the family rail card and your with others.
The list of companies accepting rail cards.
c2c
One
Silverlink
GNER
Central Trains
Midland Mainline
Northen Rail
First Great Western
South West Trains
Virgin Trains
Chiltren Railways
Arriva ...