... For all the problems that Connex were having, being dragged from pillar to post for their poor service in the media, I expected better things from First Great Eastern.
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Advantages: Good announcements Disadvantages: Generally packed trains
...I expected better things from First Great Eastern.
Now, two years of cramped trains, faulty signals and poor service, I’m back working in Chelmsford, and am glad to be rid of my daily grind into work.
You see I am big and ugly enough to take the occasional mis-hap on the way to work. It’s beyond the realms of probability that a train company will be able to run all of it’s trains on time, in a clean and safe environment. ... ...Punctuality doesn’t exist on a First Great Eastern train. A rough time, giving or taking a few minutes each way seems to be the way that they do things, which isn’t too bad, but there are also occasions when signal failures and vandalism to a train seemed to absolutely cripple the whole network, and this was a fairly common occurance.
* - Frequency
Thankfully, even if you miss your normal train, there is usually one ... more
All of my life I have lived a train ride away from London. Working from the age of 16, I have spent the best part of 9 years travelling to and from the City to get to work. Fortunately for me I learnt to drive when I was 17, and for some time was able to avoid the Connex-controlled route from my old town of Welling to London Bridge.
However, moving to Chelmsford saw me take a job in the centre of town – literally a 10 minute drive from home. Talk about bliss! No more hour-long traffic jams, or waiting in all weather for the train to pull in late again. What could possibly go wrong? I shouldn’t have asked, because within six months a company takeover saw me transferred to a London based office, and with some trepidation I started to catch the train to work again.
After several years of being subjected to Connex South Eastern, I was a somewhat hardened commuter already. I was used to rarely getting a seat, and trains not running to time. For all the problems that Connex were having, being dragged from pillar to post for their poor service in the media, I expected better things from First Great Eastern.
Now, two years of cramped trains, faulty signals and poor service, I’m back working in Chelmsford, and am glad to be rid of my daily grind into work.
You see I am big and ugly enough to take the occasional mis-hap on the way to work. It’s beyond the realms of probability that a train company will be able to run all of it’s trains on time, in a clean and safe environment. I accept that there will be times when a signal DOES fail, or a train DOES break down. I find it hard to believe, however, that these things can happen time and time again.
* - Punctuality
Assuming that a train runs solely on tracks, and to a schedule, it is therefore safe to assume that trains should not be reliant on other issues, such as traffic jams, roadworks and bad weather delaying them, which is generally the main problems a road user would encounter. Why then is it that the only cries of anger on Chelmsford station in the mornings are when a train leaves on time, and those that are used to it arriving a few minutes behind schedule are annoyed at having missed the train due to it pulling out of the station when it was actually meant to and not a couple of minutes late like it normally does? Punctuality doesn’t exist on a First Great Eastern train. A rough time, giving or taking a few minutes each way seems to be the way that they do things, which isn’t too bad, but there are also occasions when signal failures and vandalism to a train seemed to absolutely cripple the whole network, and this was a fairly common occurance.
* - Frequency
Thankfully, even if you miss your normal train, there is usually one a few minutes behind. Even with First Great Eastern’s “We’ll get there when we can” attitude, trains to London generally run every 5-10 minutes in the morning. Off peak times will see trains heading to and from London every 15-30 minutes.
* - Announcements
This is one of First Great Eastern’s plus points. Whenever a train is delayed, even if it is by merely a minute, an announcement is played over the tannoy reporting the delay. Although it is tinny and obviously pieced together by a computer (which makes it sound like it has been written with terrible punctuation: “The. Oh-Seven. Nineteen service. Calling at. Stratford. And. London Liverpool Street only. Is running approximately. Five. Minutes late. This is due to. Signal failure. In the. Bethnal Green. Area.”), it is concise and audible, and lets you know how late you’re likely to be. On particularly bad mornings when a lot of trains have been cancelled, the guards often announce exactly what station the next train is at, and when it is expected to arrive.
* - Cleanliness
Both the stations and the trains are generally very clean. The newer trains all have several bins on each carriage, and the floors are often clean enough to sit down on when you’re stuck standing in a carriage on a line that has severe delays. My only complaint would be that the toilets often smell really bad, and that First Great Eastern have not yet developed a way of preventing the toilets from being flushed inside stations, which generally means that getting on a train at Liverpool Street station is done as quickly as possible, breathing only through the mouth in an attempt to avoid breathing in the smell of used toilets and industrial bleach.
* - Safety signs and announcements
All train carriages have plenty of safety notices displayed, and the drivers quite often give out safety advice over the tannoy system at the start of each journey. The signs seems easy to follow, telling you how to exit the train in an emergency, and where to find fire extinguishers, and general strike me as being very handy.
* - Staff
First Great Eastern staff are your general train staff. For every one that is helpful, polite or happy, there are another five that talk down to you, are generally rude, or give off the idea that they cannot be bothered dealing with you. It’s a shame, as it reflects badly on the whole company, but my guess would be that most of the staff have been ground down by rude comments at commuters suffering a bad service.
* - Carriage size
Most of First Great Eastern’s trains are the newer type, with slightly more standing room, and carriages with more seats, as opposed to the old slam-door type. Most peak trains have the maximum of twelve carriages, but this doesn’t stop the overcrowding for many people to and from work. Thanks to the not so unusual delays, there is often a knock on effect that means the trains are busier than normal, meaning a cramped 35 minute trip to Liverpool Street, standing in a confined space with several others, with no real means of ventilation.
* - Price
Fares between Chelmsford and London Liverpool Street are as follows:
Chelmsford to Liverpool St - Standard Day Return £16.90 Chelmsford to Liverpool St – Cheap Day Return £9.30 Chelmsford to Liverpool Street - Weekly £60.00 Chelmsford to Liverpool Street - Monthly £230.40 Chelmsford to Liverpool Street - Annual £2,400.00 All Zones (1-6) Peak Day Travelcard £20.40 All Zones (1-6) Off-Peak Day Travelcard £12.40 All Zones (1-6) Travelcard - Weekly £72.00 All Zones (1-6) Travelcard - Monthly £276.50 All Zones (1-6) Travelcard - Annual £2,880.00
* - Overall
Overall travelling on First Great Eastern leaves a lot to be desired. The fares take a fair whack out of your pay packet each month, and you are quite often packed onto cramped, late-running carriages. Travelling at peak times is more often a nightmare than a dream come true, though off-peak is quite the reverse and can be quite pleasant. The attitude of staff leaves a lot to be desired, but I’m sure that they would argue the same about many commuters. If Ken Livingstone wants people to start using public transport a little more, then he should ensure services such as that of First Great Eastern clean up their image and their act. Three out of five stars for me, mainly because there is still no quicker way to get to London, the off-peak services are pretty good, and the announcements are generally very good. Stars were lost due to poor service and large ticket prices.
Advantages: frequent services Disadvantages: dirty and no seats at peak times
...a seat on a train. First Great Eastern obviously think differently.
First Great Eastern run train services between London, Southend, Ipswich, Harwich and Clacton plus a couple of smaller branch lines. First Great Eastern itself was formed with privatisation in the late 1990’s as part is the First Bus group of companies. This review mainly concentrates on services between Chelmsford and Liverpool Street as this is the route that I have daily ... ...services with friends who use First Great Eastern services from other destinations I think this review does give a fairly accurate pictures of their services as a whole.
In general terms the facilities at Chelmsford Station are very good and on the whole clean although the toilets are well overdue for refurbishment. The station is well staffed and keeps passengers well informed of delays/ changes to services etc.
My main gripe with services from ...
PaulBed 16.05.2003
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Advantages: Good value, Fast journey times Disadvantages: Not that comfortable
First Great Eastern is a train operating company which operates metro and medium distance journeys in the south-east out of it's London terminal Liverpool Street.
I used to be a student in Barking, and at first used to use the District Line and c2c from Barking station to get to Central London. But i found that using Goodmayes station (which is marginally closer to me), it was quicker, more frequent amd more reliable to use the First Great Eastern ... ...to Basingstoke. There is no First Class on these services, and they are not the most comfortable trains that FGE operate.
As well as Metro services, the company offers longer-distance services to Southend Victoria, Clacton, Ispwich and others. First Great Eastern is the stopping operator on the line between Ipswich and London (mainline fast services provided by Anglia Railways). These are provided by Class 321 trains which are being refurbished ...
Mattnottm 09.12.2001
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Advantages: Modern trains, high frequency of trains. Disadvantages: Uncomfortable trains, bad staffing.
I have an interest in railways - so I am not criticising Great Eastern lightly...
I live in South Woodham Ferrers (on the Southminster Branch). The service is hourly (as good as it gets). I have a few niggles about the staff (or lack of them) and the ugly and uncomfortable metro trains that get sent on this line. Those who travel on the metro trains on the Great Eastern will know how uncomfortable and unreliable they can be. Great Eastern cast off ... ...past Shenfield) because they keep their long distance trains on the Southend line (to compete with the LTS). Perhaps Great Eastern should keep their existing customers before attracting new ones. Anyway, I was travelling to London on a Saturday morning and there was no trains running because the train broke down (what a surprise!). The Replacement Rail Service was non existant and the customer services were useless. That niggle over; lets go to the ...
lee.p.best 26.10.2002
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Advantages: More comfortable than 2003! (previous reviews). Buffett car, in seat trolley service. Frequent services. Disadvantages: Array of faults with trains/overhead lines/signalling.
Although overall a good service, this line is prone to delayed trains (and cancellations although this is rare). I commute on this line from Manningtree to London but also use this line often at other times.
DO NOT RELY ON THIS TRAIN LINE AS A MEANS TO GET TO THE AIRPORT, or an important meeting, or theatre, unless you have plenty of time that you are willing to reserve. If you get to London on time, go and have a leisurely lunch or drinks before ... ...prone to be 10 minutes late but when something drastic goes wrong it could mean you being stuck for hours and there is no-where for trains to be re-directed. In fairness buses are swiftly put on if this happens.
There are often weekend engineering works which may involve getting a rail replacement bus for part of your journey. Always check for this before you plan a journey. The train/rail knows when in advance when engineering will occur, they ...
Lummers40000 06.10.2006
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Advantages: Appear more reliable than Anglia Disadvantages: Cramped and Bumpy
...really an overall view of First Great Eastern, but more an analysis of the commuter service between Manningtree / Ipswich and Liverpool Street.
I used to regularly catch the 6.51 Anglian train scheduled for Liverpool St at 7.57, but after constantly rusing to the station in time only to be delayed 10, 20 mins waiting because of points problems at Diss etc, I decided to switch to the slightly earlier First Great eastern 06.40. Though this is scheduled ... ...rarely late at Manningtree (its first stop).
After trying various trains to get home the best Great Eastern train is the 17.02, though this is packed (you can get a seat if you are on the train up to 2 or 3 mins before departure) it tends to run on time, though can occasionally be delayed as train arrives in 2 sections. Arriving at Manningtree at 18.08
Next is the 17.16, this normally leaves on time but is incredibly bumpy. I kid you not, when ...
gazzab12 12.09.2003
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