Im back using the site now, and will catch up reading all the reviews!!
Im back using the site now, and will catch up reading all the reviews!!
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My personal expperiences with London Underground are fairly good. It is not a perfect service, the people tend to be nasty, and they keep raising the ticket price! BUT, without it, getting places would be a lot more difficult, and i suppose you get alot for the price, compared to trains to other places. Despite its problems, London Underground has a goodish service, or at least the only one available!
THE TUBE LINES
There are 10 main lines and 2 smaller lines, aswell as the DLR.
Bakerloo Line - This is the brown line on the map. It goes from Harrow & Wealdstone to Elephant and Castle, passing through stations such as Paddington, Baker Street, Piccadily Circus and Waterloo.
Central Line - This is the red line on the tube map. It goes from West Ruislip to Epping, on two different routes, one which goes through South Woodford and one which goes through Fairlop.
Circle Line - This is the Yellow line on the tube map. It goes in a circle (haha) all round zone 1 through stations such as Victoria and Paddington.
Victoria - The Light Blue line. It goes from Brixton to Walthamstow Central, passing through Victoria.
The smaller lines are Waterloo and city (light green) which goes from Waterloo to Bank and the East London line (orange) which goes from Shoreditch to New Cross Gate and New Cross. The Waterloo and City line only runs at certain times (0615 - 2130 weekdays and 0800 - 1830 on Saturdays). It is closed on Sundays. The East London line also has different opening times than other tube stations.
THE ZONES
The London Underground system is split into different zones, from 1 - 6. Central London is zone one, and then the furthur out from it you go, the zone number goes up accordingly. The fare also increases as you go out furthur to get into central London, with an adult travel card in zone 5 and 6 costing £6 at offpeak times (after 9.30 am on weekdays and all weekend is offpeak).
THE PRICE
Like i said it has gone up! To buy a days travel card for all zones, it is £6 offpeak. Peak times it is £12 for an adult. There are also child fares. Children (5 - 15 inclusive) go for £2 offpeak and £6 peak. If you only need to travel in certain zones travel cards may be cheaper, check the website www.tfl.gov.uk for information on all ticket prices. I am wrting this review from the my perspective, and i only buy all zone travelcards. However, you can also get single fares into London, howeve, if you are also returning, it is cheaper to buy a travel card.
HOW TO GET IT CHEAPER!
Children - If you are over 11 (or 10 if you look older!) you need a photocard to prove you qualify for a child ticket ie, you are under 15. Most stations are really hot on this, and wont let you on for child unless you have this. They are free to get (minus the price you have to pay for the photo!) and you will have to bring your passport or similar proof of identity along to get it. BUT, they will not accept your passport alone as proof of age, but make you pay full fare. They are like that! GET ONE!
Students - When I turned 16, and started having to pay full fare :( I looked into ways of getting it cheaper. Going from zone 6, you can get a few pounds off a travel card with a student rail card which costs you £20 to get. But you will still be paying at least £4 something.
Family travel cards - These are great! If you have at least one adult and child traveling together it costs £4 (on weekends) or £4.80 (in the week but offpeak) for BOTH of you! So, this is good for familys (you can get 2 adults and 4 children on one card, ofcourse the more adults and children you put on it the more it will be) and also for teenagers if you have a friend who is under 15. For example, when I turned 16 and my friend was still 15 we started getting these, as she went for 80p on weekdays and free on the weekends, and i was £4. So if we split it, iy was still only £2.80 each, much better than the £6 i would have had to pay! You have to travel together throughout the day for your ticket to be valid. Ask for these, they seem to like to keep them very quiet! You also DONT have to be related to get them.
The elderly and disabled - You can get freedom passes, which offer discounts (again see the website for details. New Deal people also get discounts.
Season tickets - Annual, weekly and montly travel cards work out cheaper in the long run if you were travleing everyday, but are very expensive to buy in the first place (an annual all zone travel card is over £1000). But if you travel all the time they are worth checking out.
Oyster - Travel cards are a little bit cheaper with this, but i could go on for a whole other review! Check the website for details.
THE PEOPLE
Well, you have no contact with the driver, and i have never seen a guard on the trains i get! However, the station staff vary, some are nice and helpful, some are horrible and not so helpful. Not many seem to go out of their way to help you, or try and get you the lowest fare, but most can help with directions and what tube lines to get.
A TYPICAL JOURNEY
Well, after buying your ticket, you go down some stairs or an esculator (or even a lift!) to the platform, that looks exactly like an overground platform but underground (usually, alot of the stations are overground, especiialy on the piccadily line). There are also ticket barriers to go through where you have to put your ticket in the machine to get through, and posters of either advertising, or maps to help you plan your journey. People seem to worry about using the underground (i suppose we all are alot more after the bombs, but also for other reasons too) but its not as claustrophobic as i expected when i first started using them. It is well lit etc, but still, i have friends who wont use the tubes! Anyway, the train comes (fairly regulary unless there are delays which you will be warned about) about once every 3 minutes on a good day, but up to 17 with delays. In the rush hour, they are PACKED so be prepared to stand up and have your face in peoples armpits. On the way towards the airport there are also alot of bags, so space is limited. However, if you are at the begining of a line, you may get a seat, or if you use the trains at a less busy time). There are posters in some stations telling you the average journey time from A to B, but sometimes the tubes just seem to stop for a bit. At each station the doors automatically open (eg you dont need to press a button like on the bus) and you continue on your way....
THE TRAINS
They are about 8 carriages long (i think, i have never counted!), and the newer ones are nicer! The Piccadily line has newer trains, the District line ones are older. The seats are not usually like on a normal train (facing each other) although on some services (the victoria line) they sometimes are. Normally, the seats are in rows along the carriage walls facing each other, so you are constantly looking at the person opposite you! There are bars to hold on to and a large area by the doors to stand in should you need to (you probably will!), aswell as some padding on sticky out bits of the train to sit on. On some lines, there are also fold down chairs. The chairs are comftable enough, with armrests to fight over. They are not the greatest seats in the world, but they are not the worst either!
The colour of the inside of the train seems to be themed to the lines (eg piccadilly line bars are dark blue, central line are red, northern line are yellow). There is an electronic screen telling you where the train is headed and sometimes the next stop. When you stop at the next station there is a voice telling you the stop, and also to mind the gap. Prehaps without this warning people would throw themselves down it and blame the train company! Who knows! There is also alot of advertising along the top bit of the walls, which i suppose gives you something to look at!
Anyway, all in all, the trains are ok, and comftable enough, though not something you would want to sit on for hours! There are not toilet on the tube like on most overground trains and you cannot walk down the carriages. Once you are in one, you stay there, at least till the next stop!
TIPS FOR THE TUBE!
1. Let the people getting off get off first. 2. DONT assume by throwing your luggage in to the train as its about to go will make it stop. I've seen people do this, it doesnt work!!! 3. Stand on the right on the esculators so people in a hurry can get past. 4. Let people who need to sit down sit down, eg old people, people with kids, but dont give a two year old its own seat when it can sit on your knee! 5. Be prepared for delays. Leave some extra time. 6. Get a tube map! These are available from all tube stations and it makes your journey much easier. 7. Ask the staff if you dont know where you have to go. Many arn't that nice, but they seem to know alot about where you are going 8. Check the tube you are getting on goes via the station you want. Some tube lines are split, make sure your going the right way. 9. Always have a ticket, or you wont be able to get through the barriers at the next stop! 10. Bring something to do! Long tube journeys are boring! 11. Walk to the end of the platform, or the part furthest away from the entrance to the platform as you are then more likely to get a seat.
OTHER INFO
The tubes are an interlinking system, so wherever you are, you can get to any other place on the tube system, though it might take some time with switching lines all the time. Again a tube map it useful here, a bug white dot indicates that is a change point at the station between lines. On the actually tube, there will also be a map of the line with station's other lines on them. E.g, Piccadily circus is on the Piccadily line and the Bakerloo line. Look for links or ask.
Many of the stations do not have disabled access, which i think is terrible. Check the tube map for the wheelchair symbol to see where you can get on and off if you are disabled. This is the same with toilets (disabled and other). Not all stations have them, check the map.
The tube system links to many big National Rail stations like Victoria and Paddington aswell as Waterloo. The voice over on the tube will say when to 'change here for national rail serices', and also sometimes announces places of interest, such as galleries. Again, check the map. It has the national rail services symbol for an overground train link aswell as one for Tramlink and riverboat services. You can also see airport interchanges, and information on stations, like which wil be closed sundays.
Overall, the tubes are ok, they run fairly frequently, they are not the most comfatable or the cleanest things in the world but they tend to be alright. They are also the quickest way to get around London, and to most people, they are not that expensive. As for the safety thing, they generally are, with posters to try and keep us all safe. However, we are ofcouse always under threat, but london underground seem to be doing all they can to keep is safe.
Good review but they don't deserve four stars they are getting worse and worse!
310882 29.08.2005 20:51
i have to travel to london every month for work and hate it!! my trains always packed, then the same with tubes... i could rant on about how much i hate doin this but i wont lol! great review. amy x
mark_allen71 27.08.2005 22:29
I had a girlfriend who lived in London and used to go down at weekends...I used to get to London a long time before we were due to meet in case I got off at the wrong stop! Great review sis! xxxx
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